Parents Have Public Brawl Over Which Gang Their Toddler Should Join

Joseph Manzanares

Imagine that you wander into a video rental place on a Saturday night, because for some ridiculous reason, you still haven’t joined Netflix. After making your selections, you get in line to check out, only to see that the woman working the counter is being threatened with her life, as her assailant knocks over displays and generally tears the place up.

This is what unsuspecting patrons witnessed at a Hollywood Video store in Commerce City, Colorado in April of 2008. However the real drama came into play when it was revealed what the altercation was about.

The person allegedly attacking the store employee was actually the father of the employee’s child, Joseph Manzanares. Manzanares and his teen-mother girlfriend were members of different gangs in Commerce City. Manzanares is purportedly a member of the “West Side Ballers” while his video store clerk girlfriend apparently had affiliations with the local Crips gang.

Though the couple belonged to different gangs, the altercation that occured in the video store was not about turf wars, snitching, or any of the usual things that members of different street gangs usually fight about. Manzanares was apparently angry with his girlfriend because they had differing perspectives on which gang their four-year-old child would be joining, after coming of age. How was this discovered? Manzanares’ girlfriend told the police when they questioned her about the incident.

After raising a commotion in the video store, Manzanares fled. Police were called, and later arrested Manzanares at his home. Commerce City Police Sergeant Joe Sandoval that “They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would claim.”

The young father was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. A few days later he pleaded guilty to the disorderly conduct charge, and the other charges were dropped.

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29 thoughts on “Parents Have Public Brawl Over Which Gang Their Toddler Should Join”

  1. Oh my gosh. This is appauling you would think that have a child would make them want to get out of the gang they are in not try to decide what gang to put there child in. It is always hard for me to read these kind of stories and worry about the future my duaghter is going to face. I know things have always been tough, but it seems like as time goes by violence becomes more of an everyday occurance and that is simply not right we are not animals.

  2. Easy way to settle it. Take the child away. Anyone who purposely tries to get their kid to join a gang is not a responsible parent and should be charged with child abuse and lose all rights to the kid.

    Both parents. This is totally unacceptable. The parents are worthless members of society who have already thrown their lives away. The kid never even got a chance to be productive or do anything with their life.

  3. Now we know. These gangs are like religions to their members. If you think of it that way, the fight, wile more violent than most, is normal.

    Mixed marriages have such problems.

  4. Wow. That’s depressing as hell. Yeah people are stupid. I’ve always maintained this. A PERSON can be smart. But on the whole, we’re the most violent race of creatures on Earth. We’re willfully self destructive. I don’t know why humans haven’t been euthanized. I wouldn’t blame a higher being for doing so. We’re almost like a cancer and things like this just reinforce it. And Ray I hope you were being satirical, because mixed marriages (which by the way, the couple were just dating) are not the same as “we’re from different gangs”. Thinking that is ludicrous.

  5. At least they are interested in the baby’s future. All parents have these fights at one point or another. Usually its about private schools or soccer practice or something. If we could just get rid of the gang brainwashing that has been done. This might just work.

  6. Choosing which gang to join should be a PERSONAL choice of every young adolescent. Can’t we all agree it just isn’t right to for a child into one particular gang, simply because you were initiated into it? I know it can be difficult, as a Crip, when your 7 year old child comes home all smiles because he’s just gotten the crap beat out of him by a bunch of hoodlum Blood brothers, but you should try hard to be understanding; freedom of choice is an important part of growing up here in America. If you try to force your child now, he might defy your wishes later, and might even end up going to college just to spite you. Remember: patience, love, understanding. Instead of screaming at your child, try buying him his first pack of 9mm ammo. He’ll never forget you for it…

  7. what the hell is going on in this world? i don’t understand why they are fighting…the only obvious and right decission would be the crips! i mean come on!! they are like way tougher and stuff…stupid people!

  8. Why do they have to wait? I know plenty of 4 year olds with mad AK47 skills. Don’t underestimate the young man!

  9. this further hits home the point that gangs are fucking retarded. they are pointless and mean nothing. you are not special because you’re in a gang, you’re an idiot. go get a job and start being a functional member of society. no one owes you anything because you are growing up in the ghetto. no ones fault you’re still in the ghetto but yours. not society, not the ‘white man’, no one but yours. gangs suck, yup come get me, i’m so scared.

  10. Gang culture is a self perpetuating cycle born again and again from the deaths of friends and relatives. It is stupid, it really is. However, gangs do serve one important function: protection. Local Gangs fight to protect their turf and their people. You really can’t expect LAPD to protect and serve inner city lower income people. GET REAL. BTW Unholy Parsnip, Ray is not ludicrous. When Ray mentioned “mixed marriages”, he was alluding to the fact that Crips are Black people and WestSide Ballers is some Latino Gang. Black gangs and Latino Gangs do not mix.

  11. Ray is not ludicrous. When Ray mentioned "mixed marriages", he was alluding to the fact that Crips are Black people and WestSide Ballers is some Latino Gang. Black gangs and Latino Gangs do not mix.

  12. well i’d imagine if the kid joined the crips there would be more oppurtunities for expansion in different cities across the nation. as i believe they would have a greater number of ties vs the other gang, so go where there is more growth potential

  13. i mean you dont want your kid joining the wrong gangbangers and have him lookin like a chump sa..
    some gangs wont even get you a gun for starters
    then what are you gonna do if you have to rob old joe at the liquor store?

  14. You are retarded, but you've got balls.

    I half agree with you.

    No, they don't deserve respect just because they come from "the ghetto", but I think I'd like to see you in their shoes. It usually isn't their fault they're still in that situation. It's nobody's fault. It's a vicious, unending cycle. ..

  15. I BELONG TO THE WEST SIDE BALLER POSSE STREET GANG IM AN ORIGINAL IN THE GANG. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU WORLD I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS AND WHAT THIS GUY IS THINKING REPRESENTING A GANG SUCH AS THE WEST SIDE BALLERZ. FIRST AND FOREMOST CHILDERN LET ME REMIND YOU GANGS ARE VERY BAD AND WILL ALWAYS BE BAD! THIS GUT HAS LOST HIS DAMN MIND, AS FOR HIS GIRLFRIEND PLEASE MOVE YOU AND YOUR CHILD OUT OF THE HOOD DAMN WE DONT NEED ANY MORE BABIES GROWING UP IN THE GANG LIFE!

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